"Heavy Drinker" Vasco Shot | Aokiji vs. Doflamingo: 626. Dobon) Mr. 1 | Toshiro would flash freeze and call it game once he goes Bankai. El Drago | All of that is useless and is Flash Frozen the moment it comes out on the battlefield. After Ace's escape, his Ice powers and Ace's Fire powers clashed and, surprisingly, resulted in a standstill. Doflamingo confronted Aokiji but decide not to fight him and left the island with Baby 5 and Buffalo. Seriously, why make whole post defending Aokiji just to admit you get one shotted? Aokiji is voiced by famous voice actor Jason Douglas in the English dubbed version of the anime. In all honesty, I feel like your opener was a wasted post. In terms of speed feats for the "fodders", Shawlong Kufang was able to Blitz Toshiro who could dodge Gins Shikai, Shinso at point Blank. Mr. 4 | That should somewhat be the distance between the Soul King Palace and Sereitei, while it may not be the actual distance, it's just a general idea of what the overall distance should somewhat be. Same with Naruto's feat but it was done at point blank and with no precognition so its relativistic+. How Aokiji would know that Kakashi uses Chakra, and know that he has a stamina issue and exploit that mid-fight is truly beyond me. This doesn't scale to Normal Naruto anyway. Assasins: Rob Lucci | Granted only one of those actually holds logical weight, but you didn't even debunk Kakashi being FTL in a satisfying fashion. Speedwise, it's whatever. Anything more than 15X without statements saying it's more, is headcanon. 630. Buggy "the Clown" | Lord of the Coast | Mr. 11 | You upped the ante a bit with speed, citing MHS feats and scaling... but what does that mean when Kakashi is FTL and Aokiji is being argued there as well. Aokiji ate the Logia Ice-Ice Fruit which allows him to control, create and transform into ice at will. One day, the Straw Hat pirates stopped on an island where Kuzan happened to be sleeping. That's not Epichotflame's fault. Moeru Shima Panku Hazādo上陸! @yuuto-jika557: Could you refrain from giving people tips in our CaV and it will count as bias if you vote if you do so again. You where a lot better than your previous cavs but you can do a lot better than this , so waiting forwrd to your next cav. Now on with the counter's haki would allow him to sense kakashi's attack's ou have people who don't have haki or use to not have haki dodgeing photon beam's which are made of light which should be light speed, Also haki can allow the user to touch people who are intangible like for example touching kizaru someone who is made of pure light. Buggy "the Clown" | The entire premise of your scaling was that Aokiji>Doflamingo, but you neglect that Aokiji's Devil Fruit plays a big role in that. Snakeman | While they themself don't have many speed feats, Toshiro scales above Bankai Ichigo. Charlotte Compote | Aokiji ate the Logia Ice-Ice Fruit which allows him to control, create and transform into ice at will. Hell, I've never seen this in any One Piece movies or filler. i didnt make energies equalised tho i just noticed when making my final post, and u can hit DMS Kakashi if u faster which Aokiji isnt sadly, @the_amongus: yh and i still have DMS Kakashi at LS throughout the CaV, minus the speed amp via chidori which is ftl. D luffy who is beyond strong even at that point even doflamango is scared of aokiji and doesn't want to fight him. Buggy Pirates Bartholomew Kuma | Dosun | He could Blitz Gerald if he wanted to and Gerald Scales above Lillito who dodged something in the Rel-FTL range depending on how fast you believe True Shikai Ichigo is in speed. In the next section, you don't even attempt to make an argument: Huh? You can see that the light beam is literally designed to be like light, So your little debunk of my feat is not true at all. Bear King | Even though he has never used it before, Kakashi still possesses Obito's Mangekyou Sharingan which means I dont see why not him being able to use all abilities from it seeing as he was gifted it (not implanted artificially) by Obito who originally owned it. That is only 15minutes at the least and he said a 3X amp. Kamui isn't doing much here at all when he can dodge it, mistify the area, create large vacuum seals of ice and etc. Not only do you take the bold (and wrong) stance that Aokiji is somehow "equal" with a Yonko, but you have the audacity to suggest they are equals in strength? It still has 2 more stages to go, Humanoid Susano'o
That was Kaguya's hand, Kaguya's combat or movement speed blitz SPSM Naruto. luffy vs Kid; luffy vs smoker; zoro vs tashigi; Summary. "Corrupt King" Avalo Pizarro | Alvida | @the_amongus@highmantra_x0sp@epichotflame. In the timeskip by just unleashing some of his power he freezes half a island with ease. Bil02. Assista a todas as temporadas de One Piece e siga Monkey D. Luffy em sua missão para obter o One Piece, o maior tesouro do mundo, e tornar-se o Rei Pirata! Just try to be convincing and target something your opponent failed to address or make strategies they will struggle to counter etc. Even though we exclude genjutsu, DMS Kakashi still comes out victoriously with a no difficult stomp. Boy was I proven wrong. Your opener concerned me at first because you weren't specific regarding Toshiro's speed and with the few things you said ( in your opener), you made him sound like a statue when compared to the other 2 characters, but you did well in your counters and explained fairly well how fast Toshiro really was. @yuuto-jika557:hmmm, what i do is that i try not to highball to those lvls and so its in line with the in-verse scaling, and mantra is right, u should refrain from giving ur opinions on what u think until the end of the CaV when its time for voting, I am not bias I just told him he could do better. I don't agree with LS Aokiji personally, but it is up to your opponents to disprove. Charlotte Daifuku | Guarda. Galdino, Black Cat Pirates A Zanpakuto is meant to cleanse souls. Anyway good luck @epichotflame and @highmantra_x0sp and don't try to argue or tag me Im not in the mood for any of that. Again, this is just Humanoid Susano'o, 2nd weakest form of Susano'o and it was still able to tank a small island lvl attack. Today at 1:07 PM. Character filters Show Dual Character Units Show VS Character Units Show Super Type Character Units. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =. ALL you need to do was make a case for Aokiji's freezing potency, and you did that towards the very beginning and end of your power section. When the Buster Call came to Ohara Island, Jaguar did everything he could to protect Nico Robin, who was the child of a friend of his (who happened to be a wanted criminal for studying the Void Century); but Kuzan froze him solid, killing him. 青キジVSドフラミンゴ」 - Kinpaku! Goes ahead to say he doesnt understand how it's light speed lol. Kakashi would be somewhat of a Hassle but Susanoo would be frozen in mere moments alongside the fact that Toshiro just wouldn't be touched in General. smh... Anyways, I'll have my post up in the coming days. Let's get right into this: I am going to start with Rman because he is representing a verse I know like the back of my hand. This match was a complete mismatch and I have no counter's to kakashi or toshiro since energies are equal. Guarda. He uses this fruit to freeze several pirates solid in ice. I don't agree with Eazy at all in that regard, but I can at least remain consistent in my beliefs. Being able to dodge and react to a ball kicked at high speeds doesnt mean you can run as fast as said ball, once again. Miss Dounglefinger | That aside, you were pretty generic when it came to countering while the other two where much better in countering/debunking what you said. Needless | Shadow Clones equally divide Chakra across the bodies. Hence why I was very unconvinced by your rebuttals in the speed department, especially with your analogy to reacting to a ball vs moving as fast as a ball. In his days as a Vice-admiral he had eaten a powerful Logia Devil Fruit that gave him mastery of Ice, he also befriended a giant vice-admiral named Jaguar D. Saul. @the_amongus Remember that you can still win a CaV in a mismatch. Caesar Clown | Today at 11:55 AM. With the Bankai multipliers of 5-10X, we could reasonably put gins Shikai at "Mach 50" but that's another argument for another day. Saint Shalulia | This match was actually a mismatch I don't even know why I countered. Drip | Porche | Demaro Black | Baby 5 | No that distinction belongs to: Aokiji also should be equal with people like kaido who one shotted luffy while holding back and drunk. (Others: Sheepshead | Watch all episodes of One Piece and follow Monkey D. Luffy on his quest to claim the greatest treasure, the legendary One Piece, and become the Pirate King. Waiters, Big Mom Pirates Dont see how toshiro wins though, I don't believe equal energies have to do much with anything but hey, wadda I know. I think you were bested in every relevant argument as far as Kakashi was concerned. Even adrimals who should be below people like aokiji is fighting is fighting and overpowering people such as post timeskip monkey. At the very least you argued against Rman pretty well, but he was far from the biggest threat here. He can also freeze anyone who touches him meaning if you touch him with something he would freeze it so touching him physically in this match will be a mistake and remember in these pictures he was using no power doing this with barley any effort if he was trying it would likely be MUCH higher. He was mentioned by Jesus Burgess that he can't trust Aokiji while Blackbeard remarked on Shiliew being the same. Foxy "the Silver Fox" | Kamui's intangibility+superior speed+being able to fly via Perfect Susano'o counters it quite easily. Ice Spear: Aokiji can crosses his hand and created 4 ice spears to attack the enemy. In the Japanese dubbed version, he is voiced by Takehito Koyasu, who is famous for his role as Dio Brando in JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Phantom Blood. Kakashi lacks a counter for all matter freezing and energy freezing as shown with Gerald Valkyrie. Others: Jango | A somewhat fodder Character, Liltoto Lamperd dodged Auschwalen, something that went from the Royal Guard to Sereitei in seconds if not a few minutes. Giolla | Caesar Clown, Emperors' Crews Aokiji contro Doflamingo 15 Dicembre 2013. During a fight too. Can you also explain to me how that Luffy (who is massively faster than PTS Zoro) couldnt keep up with Kizaru, if PTS Zoro was really relativistic in speed? Ulti | Master of the Waters, Germa 66 Type of Villain Regarding your opener I didnt like how you used Aokiji's freezing feat during Marineford's war arc instead of his freezing feat in Long Ring Long LAnd , which is far more impressive ( you even stated in your opener that you didnt need to use it but giving that it is an opener, I would have chosen his best feats right form the bat ). Passive Regeneration is nulled by an ability that can freeze states of mind such as hope. Vieni a visitarci! After Doflamingo defeated the now-Vice Admiral Smoker and was about to kill him, Kuzan stepped in and stopped him from dealing the final blow. Ice Pheasant Beak: Aokiji summon a ice Pheasant Beak and attack the enemy. Blue Gorilla | Miss Father's Day | This trend continued in his later posts, where you were persistent in arguing Toshiro at city block level. They have to be fast enough to move out of the way not more so react to it. Referee | @belando: Guess you are right. Kumadori | Baroque Works Later, after rescuing Robin from being sent to Impel Down, Kuzan had a conversation with Robin from behind a wall at the victory party, expressing confusion at why she didn't betray them like she had so many times before, she stated that she had found people that would care about her like Saul had said. The Strongest Creature in the World? Over the course of the 1000 chapter manga that is One Piece, I recall not a single time Aokiji has gone blow for blow, punch for punch with a foe. part of your post. This also pales in comparison to the Auschwalen feat that I've shown. I thought I would win but then I saw energies are equalized we cant hit kakashi but people can hit us that's not fair at all. size shown in this Scan(Multi-Large Building-City Block). Che aspetti! Captain: Kuro "of a Hundred Plans" Beast Pirates Blueno | Kurozumi Kanjuro, Orochi's Army Sorry I meant country that snowy place was a country he made a entire country stop snowing for days by just being there and one of his strongest attacks couldn't melt aokiji's ice which gives aokiji's ice pretty good durability when it comes to fire resistance. He moved his head fast enough to dodge it its like seeing a bullet but no fully being able to dodge but in marco's and naruto's case they reacted to it with their eye's but at the same time they forced their body to react to it for example you see fly it's almost gonna bump into your body but then you track it you then don't feel like you can dodge it your mind fells like it cant react but you force your body to react to that fly kinda like what naruto did but marco did it while in mid air and not even using his full speed. Alias However, the time that can be materialized is limited. Kalifa | He can also freeze people by just touching them he was serious when he did this to nico robin he froze her in a instant she was frozen so much you couldn't even feel that much tension in her body much less hearing anything in her body like a heartbeat another thing when she was frozen they had to be careful about bringing her back to the ship as if they dropped her she would end up in pieces. Fraction Chakra should and I believe does reduce your stats in general. episódio 579Desembarque!Punk Hazard, A Ilha FlamejanteJōriku! Aokiji. (316). Headliners: (Tobiroppo: Page One | Even Naruto and Sasuke who were both relativistic+ werent fast enough to save Sakura from a blitz stomp from Kaguya but DMS Kakashi casually intercepted: I don't understand how that Claw is lightspeed. Kakashi lacks an answer to the Iced out Prodigy - Toshiro. Before I begin, I would to say how laughably false and funny some of the counters were from my opponents side especially highmatraX who is representing Toshiro but dont worry, that why I'm going elaborate on most of the fallacy from their counters. No, never did I say he would waste his chakra on something like a fireball that would be in effective, rather he would just use chidori once and that's all it takes. The "shadow" created in that space can be involved in the present world without being noticed by anyone. The reaction speed implications would also apply to Marco's movement speed, by principle. It's not made of Light because Hikufunes powers, negate Reishi. After Kuzan lost, he resigned as admiral and went his own way while Akainu became the new Fleet Admiral. The Light beam's was coming sure and macro did have haki to alert him but it doesn't change the fact that even if he used haki he still need's the speed to react to it for example if you see a ball coming to your face you see it coming but you don't have the speed to swing the bat fast enough to hit it some baseball player's see the ball but just cant have their bodyto react to it haki is connected to the mind its not just a sense haki still comes from your body like in your brain like a normal person, someone tries to react to something and of course they see it coming but their body cant react to it they cant move their bones and limb's fast enough, Marco did have haki but what's the point of being able to react to something when you yourself cant react to it its like a human a regular human having haki and trying to react to a bullet but his body and limb's is not designed to react to it, macro moved all the way o the light beam before it hit and he was in winged position when he was flying meaning he had to move his limb's fast enough to go in a blocking position. 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